Mailing List Instructions - A Must Read!
Our lists are unmoderated, but posting is restricted to members.
That helps trap SPAM. Do not send SPAM to the list. Non-member
posts are held for list manager approval (that's me, Robin
Rowe). If appropriate I will probably put it through even
when it is a non-member posting.
Mailing Lists
- CinePaint-Announce
A low-traffic one-way list to receive announcements about CinePaint.
A good source of information if you are not yet a user of CinePaint
or are press. Announcements are cc-ed to CinePaint-developers
and CinePaint-users automatically. You don't need to subscribe
to this list if you are on either of those.
- CinePaint-Users
Forum for all CinePaint users regardless of operating system.
Please specify which version number of CinePaint and which operating
system you are using.
- CinePaint-Developers
Discussion of the design and implementation of CinePaint.
- CinePaint-CVS
Change log of CinePaint source code changes. [Added
2008.03.11]
When our project name changed to CinePaint from Film Gimp
our lists moved. Follow the links above to our list archives.
Sometimes you can find your answer there. There is also an archive
of our old Film Gimp list. To search an archive type your query
into the search box in the upper left hand corner of the archive
page.
Newsgroups Mail-to-News Gateway and Mirror Archive
Gmane.org
Do Not Cross-Post to the GIMP Lists
Please do not cross-post to gimp-developer or any of the other
GIMP lists. Cross-posting to gimp-developer invites noise such
as, "The best idea IMHO would be to drop this silly code
duplication and help coding on gimp". These are two separate
projects, with different goals and different people. We've never
met the GIMP people, never worked with them, and that's fine.
The CinePaint effort launched on SourceForge in 2002 as the revival
of the obscure HOLLYWOOD GIMP code branch that in 1998 was in
active development by GIMP developers. If you're curious this
thread from the GIMP list explains.
Courtesy
Note that you don't need to apologize for asking a simple
question. It's ok.
Diversity of opinion is good, but we want a civil list where
everyone is treated with respect and courtesy. Those who can't
state their opinions positively, or are unable to respectfully
disagree with the opinions of others, will be removed. Do not
make accusations. Do not call people names. Do not try to tell
people what to do. Do not use fighting words such as stupid,
dumb, idiot, wrong, and so forth. That is not ok even if
the person you are calling stupid is yourself. No swear words
or obscenities.
If nobody responds it may be no one knew the answer to your
question, or that your question seemed confusing. Restating a
question more succinctly sometimes draws a better response. If
you receive a short or incomplete answer don't feel affronted.
Do not presume you know what others are thinking or what their
motives are. If you are feeling neglected or insulted do not
share your annoyance with the list. Send a private note to the
project leader off-list so we can sort out the problem.
Do not send "test" messages to the list. If you
are having technical difficulties email the list manager.
No Evangelism
CinePaint has developers working on Linux, OpenSolaris, FreeBSD,
Mac, and Windows. Don't evangelize or state a chauvinistic
opinion regarding what software others should use. Just because
the CinePaint project is open source don't assume others share
your political views. We are not a forum for promoting Linux
or GNU advocacy. Do not refer to any operating systems, or anything
else, by derogatory names. Do not say Windoze.
Size Matters
Small attachments (about 50kb) can be posted to the list,
but files typically should be (also or instead) submitted to
Patches. Note that Patches isn't just
patches. Any type of file that needs to get in queue to move
into a release should go to Patches, for example, new brushes.
Posting screenshots to the list is good, but they need to be
lossy jpeg or gif in order to be under the size limit. If you
want to make available a larger image put that on your Web page
and give a URL, or ask me off-list to do so for you. If your
attachment is too big your message will be held automatically
for list manager approval. Size restrictions prevent overloading
list subscribers who access via dial-up.
Plain Text
Microsoft Windows users should take care not to post HTML-formatted
email. By default Outlook Express will duplicate each outgoing
message in both plain text and HTML format. This consumes unnecessary
bandwidth and annoys many users who dislike this "feature"
because it displays useless gibberish in their non-Microsoft
email reader. Spammers seem to like this feature best because
it lets them embed pictures and viruses in email messages. Consequently,
we trap HTML mail as suspected spam. Unfortunately, many Microsoft
products have this "feature" on by default. You must
turn it off yourself. In Outlook Express go to {Tools}{Options}
and set outgoing mail to {Plain Text}.
Thanks!
Robin Rowe
Project and Lists Manager |